Craps Big 6 And 8

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The Big 6 and Big 8 Bets The big 6 bet is a wager that the 6 will be rolled before the 7 will. If any other number is rolled it does not effect the result and the dice are rolled again. Consequently, the big 8 bet is a wager that the 8 will be rolled before the 7 is.

Ah, the hops bet. It’s the stuff that dreams and big fish stories are made of.

  • Placing the 6 and 8. Consider a $6 place bet on the 6. There are only 11 happenings out of 36 in this universe that produce a decision: 5 wins x $7 and 6 losses of $6 for a net loss of 1 unit. Having bet 11 X $6 the loss is 1/66 or -1.51515%. However, consider a $6 place bet on BOTH the 6 and 8 simultaneously. Now we have a 16 possible game.
  • Big 6/Big 8 Bet This is a Bet on a Big 6 or Big 8, put down after the point has been established. If a 6 or 8 is rolled before a 7, you win (1:1). This is a bet that you should not play because you can Place a bet on 6 or 8 and receive better odds.
  • The Big 8 and Big 6 are such sucker bets that most people don’t bet them, so it’s become uncommon to see them on a craps table anymore. If you encounter a table that still offers the Big 8 and Big 6, you’ll see them by the Pass Line where it makes the 90-degree curve.
  • For example, I've never seen a casino with buy bets on a 5, 6, 8, and 9 where the commission was payable on a win only. Nevertheless, I don't know the rules of every craps table on earth. I also know that if I omit such bets, somebody will write in and take me to task for the omission.

A single hop on an easy number and suddenly that little $10 bet is $150. Parlay that $160 into another bet, hit that parlay, and what was originally $10 is now $2400.

Some nights, this dream becomes a reality.

That’s why players love the hop bets. It’s one of the few ways where a player can take $100 and leave with $5000.

Some nights, the hops are just…hopping.

WHAT IS A HOP BET?

The simple explanation

For those who are not aware, first, an explanation of the hop bets.

In craps, a hop bet is a one roll bet where the player bets on what they think will appear on the next roll.

Hop bets are always one roll bets.

The rest of this article will go into the technical and detailed explanation of the hop bet. If you want the simple explanation, just skip to the bottom to the TL;DR part.

The technical and unsettled explanation of a hop bet

The technical definition of a hop bet is more debated.

There are some who would argue that, by definition, a hop bet must have either one combination (the hard hop) or two combinations (the easy hop).

For example, is the Big Red (Any 7) or the Any Craps bet considered a hop bet? There are those who would argue that those bets are not hop bets because there are six combinations to win the Big Red bet and four combinations to win the Any Craps bet, those are not hop bets.

Having said the above about the Big Red or Any Craps, if the player threw out $3 and said ‘hopping the sevens’, the dealer or stick would mark the ‘five two’, ‘thirty four’, and ‘sixty one’ combination (those are the most commonly used terms for each combination, as I have never heard the ‘sixty one’ referred to as the ‘sixteen’).

Typically, a hop bet will pay in the neighborhood of either 30 to 1 for hard hops and 15 to 1 for easy hops.

The Hard Hop

An example of one combination is any number where both dice must match exactly, such as ‘hopping hard 8’. If you are hopping hard 8, that means on the next roll, the dice must come up 4 + 4. This can be referred to as ‘hopping forty-four’ or ‘hopping hard 8’.

The payoff for a ‘hard hop’ is usually 30-1, although, this can vary from casino to casino.

Note that hopping a hard 8 is not the same as betting hard 8. When a player throws out a chip and says ‘hard 8’, the dealer will make the hard ways 8 bet, which pays 9-1. The hardways bet is a multi-roll bet and pays 9-1.

Advice:to avoid confusion, when players want to hop, my advice is to always say the word, ‘hopping’ in front of the bet. It would be very disappointing if your intention was to hop a hard 8, but you ended up winning a hard 8 bet instead.

A real-life story…a few months ago, I was standing next to a newbie craps player and he asked me how to bet the 8 that paid 30-1, as he had seen another player win $300 on a $10 bet. I knew he meant that he wanted to hop the hard 8, so I told him, to throw out his $10 and say, ‘hopping hard 8’. He threw out the chip and said, ‘hard 8’. I immediately tried to correct him and told him to say, ‘hopping hard 8’. He was confused but I told him, ‘if you want 30-1, you have to say, hopping hard 8’.

He hopped the hard 8 and a roll later, won $300. The ‘hard 8’ would have paid $90 (with the caveat that it’s a multi-roll bet).

Oh…I have this on a Real Craps Game video that will appear in the future.

The Easy Hop

An example of two combinations is any number where both dice can be different, such as hopping easy 8. There are two ways to hop and easy 8: 2+6 and 6+2 and also 3+5 and 5+3.

If you’re still learning hop bets, I know what you’re thinking. I said there are two ways to hop, but I just listed four combinations. That’s because the 2+6 and 6+2 counts as one bet, and the 3+5 and 5+3 counts as another bet. In craps parlance, the player can just combine the two numbers and refer to them as ‘twenty-six’ or ‘sixty-two’. Since the casino does not require the player to specify which individual die will have which number, the terms ‘ twenty-six’ and ‘sixty-two’ refer to the exact same thing.

Similarly, ‘thirty-five’ and ‘fifty-three’ refer to the latter easy 8 combination.

Note that if the player wants to bet an easy hop, the player must specify which easy hop he or she wants to bet. For example, there are two versions of the easy 8: the ‘twenty-six’ combination and the ‘thirty-five’ combination. So if the player wants to bet an easy 8, the player must specify which easy 8 the player wants.

The payoff for an easy hop bet is usually 15-1, although, this, too, can vary from casino to casino.

What numbers can be hopped?

The craps player can hop bet any number: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12.

Some craps tables have areas marked specifically for hop bets, while some tables do not.

How to hop a number

To hop a number, simply toss out your bet to either the dealer or the stick person and say what combination you want to hop.

My advice is that if you want to hop, say the word, ‘hopping’ or ‘hop’ along with your bet. Otherwise, the dealer or stick person may mark another bet.

You may hop more than one combination. For example, if you threw out $3 and said ‘hopping all the sixes’, the dealer will mark the ‘twenty-four’, ‘fifty one’, and ‘thirty-three’ combinations. If one of those combinations roll, the payout will be dependent upon whether the easy or hard 6 rolled. If the easy 6 rolled, then the payout will be 15-1; whereas if the hard 6 rolled, the payout will be 30-1.

Note that if you win the hop bet, the dealer will pay and automatically leave your hop bet up for the next roll. If you do not want to automatically leave the bet up, you may request that the hop bet be taken down; in which case the dealer will return the hop bet to you.

Also, if you make multiple hops bets – such as the aforementioned $3 hopping all the sixes – on the payout, almost every casino will deduct, from your payout, the amount that it would cost to leave up your multiple bets. For example, if you bet $3 ‘hopping all the sixes’, and the next roll was a winning 5 + 1 roll, you would be entitled to a $15 payout. However, the dealer will only send you $13 because $2 will be taken away to pay for the losing ‘forty-two’ and ‘thirty-three’ combination.

Similarly, if the winning roll is 3 + 3, you would be entitled to $30, but the dealer will send you $28, after deducting $2 to pay for the ‘forty-two’ and ‘fifty-one’ on the next roll.

If you do not want the dealer to deduct the amount and pay for the next roll, just tell the dealer to not deduct the amount. An easy way to say it would be to say, ‘bring my hops down’ (said just like that).

This is an important nuance for bankroll management reasons.

TL;DR

A hop bet is a one roll bet that typically pays 15-1 or 30-1, depending on what the player is betting. Easy hops typically pay 15-1 are hops that have two winning combinations; while hard hops typically pay 30-1 and have one winning combination.

I say ‘typically’ because some casinos will pay 16-1 and 31-1. Note that 16 for 1 and 31 for 1 are the same as 15-1 and 30-1.

To make a hop bet, gently throw your chip to the stick person or dealer and say ‘hopping’ along with what you think will appear. If you make the bet early enough and before the dice are sent out, the dealer or stick will help the player by clarifying which hop the player wants.

That’s the hop bet in a nutshell.

If you have any comments or questions, feel free to leave them below.

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It’s no surprise that multitudes of strategies have been developed around place betting the (6) & (8) as these numbers give the craps player one of the be best advantages of beating the casinos.

First of all, both the (6) and the (8) are the numbers likely to roll most often, next to the (7). There are 5 ways to roll (6), 5 ways to roll an (8), and 6 ways to roll a (7).

It doesn’t stop there. Here’s are some more advantages of Place Betting the (6) and/or (8).

  • Place Bets only need to be hit once to win, versus a Pass Line or Come Bet, which needs to be hit twice
  • The payout on a Place Bets exceeds that of Pass Line or Come Bets at lower betting levels
    • It takes approximately 5X odds before the benefits of PL/Come Bets exceed that of Place Bets
  • Place Bets can be made or taken down at any time the player wants versus PL/Come bets which are contract bets
  • The player controls the numbers that are bet, versus the roll of the dice being the determining factor
  • Already mentioned, the (6) and (8) are most likely to be rolled aside from the (7)
  • Betting both the (6) and (8) gives you a 10 to 6 advantage of one of your numbers hitting before the (7)
  • The house edge on place betting the (6) or (8) is only 1.52%, one of the lowest on the table

If the toolbox of strategies you bring to the craps tables does not include a (6) and (8) strategy, then it might be time to find one that works for you.

We’ll cover a few of the most popular, and some not-so-popular 6/8 strategies for you to assess and possibly include in your own repertoire of strategies.

Secrets Tip – Never bet the Big 6 or Big 8 located at the corners of the table. They carry a 9.09% House Edge versus Place Betting the same numbers for a 1.52% House Edge.

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All examples include betting both the (6) and (8) on a $10 minimum craps table.

6 & 8 Collect and Press

  • Place Bet both the (6) and (8) for $12 each (Total $24)
  • Take these steps on the (6) and (8) independently
    • 1st Hit – Collect and rack the $14 in winnings (you now only have $10 of your money at risk)
    • 2nd Hit – Press your bet to $24
    • 3rd Hit – Collect and rack the $28 in winnings (now your up $20)
    • 4th Hit – Press your bet to $48
  • From here, you can either continue alternately ‘collecting’ and ‘pressing’ your bets through the end of the roll or take down your bets at any point in the progression you want.

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6 & 8 One Unit Continuous Press

  • Place Bet both the (6) and (8) for $12 each (Total $24)
  • Take these steps on the (6) and (8) independently
    • 1st Hit – Win $14 – Press your bet by $6 to $18 (collect & rack $8)
    • 2nd Hit – Win $21 – Press your bet by $6 to $24 (collect & rack $15)
    • 3rd Hit – Win $28 – Press your bet by $6 to $30 (collect & rack $22)
    • 4th Hit – Win $35 – Press your bet by $6 to $36 (collect & rack $29)
  • Either continue to press one unit each time one of your numbers hits, or take down one or both of your bets at any point you want.

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6 & 8 – $72 Regression

  • Place Bet both the (6) and (8) for $36 each (Total $72)
    • 1st Hit – Win $42
    • Immediately take both the (6) and (8) down to $12 each
    • You’re now positive $18 and only have casino winnings on the table
  • Use the (6) and (8) Collect and Press for the remainder of the shooter’s roll
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6 & 8 – 1-3-2-6 Positive Progression Strategy

  • Place Bet both the (6) and (8) for $12 each (Total $24)
  • Take these steps on the (6) and (8) independently
    • 1st Hit – Win $14 – Drop $10 and press the bet to $36 (Net winnings = -$34)
    • 2nd Hit – Win $42 – Drop your bet to $24 (Net winnings = $18)
    • 3rd Hit – Win $28 – Drop $60 and press your bet to $72 (Net winnings = $0)
    • 4th Hit – Win $84 – Take all bets down (Net winnings = $168)
  • After taking your bets down and collecting your net winnings of $168, you can wait for the shooter’s roll to end or decide to start the betting progression over.

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6 & 8 – $48 Hit and Spread

Craps Big 6 And 8

  • Place Bet both the (6) and (8) for $24 each (Total $48)
    • 1st Hit – Win $28
    • Immediately take the (6) and (8) down to $12 each
    • Add the (5) and (9) for $10 each
  • After the 1st Hit, you’ll now have 4 inside numbers covered for a $16 investment.
  • Utilize a collect and press strategy for the remainder of the roll.

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6 or 8 – Low Roller Inside Spread

  • Place the (6) or (8) for $12 (Total $12)
    • 1st Hit – Win $14 – Rack $2 and place the opposite number for $12 (Net = -$10)
    • 2nd Hit – Win $14 – Collect and rack $14 (Net winnings = $4)
    • 3rd Hit – Win $14 – Rack $4 and place the (5) or (9) for $10 (Net winnings = $8)
    • 4th Hit – Win $14 – Rack $4 and place the opposite 5/9 for $10 (Net winnings = $12)
  • You now have all inside numbers covered AND a $12 profit.
  • Utilize the collect and press strategy for each number covered through the end of the roll.

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Craps Big 6 And 8 Inch

6 or 8 – Low Roller Run Up

  • Place the (6) or (8) for $12 (Total $12)
    • 1st Hit – Win $14
      • Parlay your winnings and add $4 to your bet
      • Bet is now $30 – Total investment $16
    • 2nd Hit – Win $35
      • Parlay your winnings and add $1 to your bet
      • Bet is now $66 – Total investment of $17
    • 3rd Hit – Win $77
      • Take all bets down
  • Collect $126 in winnings ($14+$35+$77) from a total investment of $17
  • At this point, you can either start the strategy over or wait for the next shooter

Craps Odds Big 6 And 8

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There are many other variations out there, and if you didn’t find one you’re comfortable with above, a quick google search will uncover many, many more.

Keep in mind, no strategy will change the house edge (casino advantage) on the bets placed. The goal is find the betting strategy that works for you and your bankroll and apply it at the right times at the table.

Feel free to share your own (6) and (8) betting strategies in the comments below.

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